Welcome back. It's the Truck Show podcast recorded from the pod shed here in Huntington Beach, California.

And as you know, I recently visited lovely Flagstaff, Arizona and attended the 2026 Overland Expo West event.

And it was as big and as awesome as ever. I mean, you could get lost, walking around the place, seeing all the innovation, the gadgets, all the camping things you didn't know you needed.

It was always a top-tier first-class show.

While I was there, as you know, we debuted the Jeep with the new American Adventure Lab Powerpack rack that featured the 105-amp hour KC flat battery and a full complement of Redark battery management.

And it was a huge hit.

And I probably spoke to, had to be over 100 people asking about the setup throughout the

weekend.

So it was really cool to have people really curious about what we're doing.

And I can't wait to get out and enjoy it soon.

I'm almost there. Unfortunately, while I was there,

I did not get a ton of interviews because we were so busy launching the Offroad Business

Association, complete with our own Orba Lounge. So we had people coming in and out all weekend.

And we had my red Jeep out front, so it was drawing people in as well. And as you might recall,

the Offroad Business Association was purchased by SEMA in the last half of 2025. And SEMA asked me to come on board and help get it off the ground. So in my new role as the executive director, I've been busy promoting Orba and sharing our mission of advocating for motorized recreation on public lands and the small businesses in the off-road industry that support it. So since I've been so busy on Orby, I figured it would probably be a good idea to have my legislative director, Laura Butcher, on the show. So we can talk about what we've got going on, some of the policies we're tracking, the wins, et cetera. So we've got her on this episode. And speaking of wins, the Trump administration dropped a doozy on Friday night shortly after our

interview last week, and he signed a new executive order, rescinding executive orders 11644 and

11989, which is a significant step toward modernizing how federal agencies manage off-highway

vehicle access and recreation on public lands.

So here's our quick rundown of our Orba press release.

For nearly 50 years, these executive orders have shaped the regulatory framework used in federal

route designation and travel management decisions across millions of acres of public land.

The rescission begins a process that could fundamentally reshape how agencies

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