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You're listening to BBC Sounds. Here we are then Scrum 5 Podcast. We're back. We've had a little break.

It feels like a little holiday, Philippa Tutiaia joining me today for another Scrum

podcast as I said we've had a break have you been busy what have you been doing?

Well I've been catching up obviously pro 14 went back into, so that was really good.

So got caught up on all of that.

A little bit of breakaway from the Six Nations chaos that we love so much, but yeah, I had a few

days away from a bit of respite but super

exciting now to get back into this weekend and good to see you back actually in one

peace because I haven't spoken to anybody in detail about the flight back from

Dublin at the end of the island game. Now then, when did you come back?

And obviously you're in one piece, but how bumpy was it?

Mentally I'm a little bit broken but physically I'm fine. No I was supposed to come back on the

Sunday after the women's game but I'd work the men's game on the Saturday and the BBC that

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