You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. So it has all now officially kicked off. We can discuss games here on the Scrumfy

Podcast. It wasn't the win that the Wales women wanted, but it's onwards and upwards, hopefully.

We're going to discuss the game with a few members of the current squad and also get the perspective

of Duthkey Howell, former Wales fallback. Right then, there's plenty to talk about, plenty to dissect and discuss after that first match against Italy

and such a shame really, a loss for Wales women.

Devghi Howell she's joined me for a coffee former now Wales

full back.

Devghi how are you first of all? I'm very good thank you How are you?

I'm very good, thank you.

How are you?

Yeah, not bad. Obviously, I have another chance to discuss with you, especially on the pod,

your try against the bar bars.

We will do that.

...