Hello and welcome to the Scriptures A Real podcast.

This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that have helped them become more real to us because we believe that helps us get more power out of them and we need all the help we can get.

I'm your host, Kerry Mealstein, and I'm so excited to have with me

today, a long-time colleague and friend, a guy who I feel like when he's around. Usually, he's

the smartest guy in the room. This is Dr. Matthew Bowen from BYU, my old digs. Aloha, Matt.

Aloha. It's good to be with you. This week's episode is being sponsored by me, actually, in my book, The Easter Connection,

being made whole with God through Christ.

That is available now at Siegelbook.com.

That's probably your cheapest place to get it and easiest.

So Siegelbook.com.

It's a very short and inexpensive.

I think it's only three or four dollars

on Siegel book. An inexpensive Easter read where I explore an element of the atoni sacrifice

of Christ and Easter that I hadn't recognized or thought of before until I started seeing it

through the lens of the covenant and our relationship

with God and actually some things that I brought in from relative race. And so this is, I think,

something that is inexpensive enough that you can enjoy it yourself. It's profoundly affected me,

actually. I hope it will you. And it's cheap enough. This is the

gift you could give to your kids or your grandkids for Easter or your friends or the people you

minister to or whatever else. So it's called the Easter Connection. And you can find it at

Siegelbook.com. And I hope that it really makes your Easter more powerful and more meaningful.

This is part of my efforts to help us get more out of the Holy Week,

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