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Something you said that really gave me chills was, and I'll quote, you said,

I'm an expert on death. Few people have killed more than me. I understand what it means to

extinguish the fire in someone's life. When that happens, there's no more opportunities. I mean,

what did you mean by that? I think I meant exactly what I said, I mean, like, when you kill a man,

you take away everything he's gotten, everything he's ever going to have. It's like you robbing his

future, terrible thing. It's a, you know, it's a final thing of no, like, there's no reconstruction

from that. Have you, or did you know that everything he just said was from a movie? Yeah, he did

mention that, but for a second there, I really thought he was being authentic. I thought he was

being human. Yeah, it's from unforgiven. It's one of my favorite movies, and as soon as I heard him say

it, I knew that it came from that movie. It's the hell of a thing killing a man.

Take away all his goth, and always ever gonna. So many parallels to the story.

Yeah. Oh, I guess they had it coming. Yeah, this is kind of a case of life imitating art.

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