This is Jenny Allen and you are episode of the mate for this

podcast you guys are gonna love today's conversation with Jenny and Ruth

Simons Ruth is an author and an artist and a business owner she owns an amazing company

called Grace Laced and she just recently came out with a book last September

called Beholding and Becoming and it is absolutely beautiful so don't miss it And I know you guys will learn so much today from

Ruth. So let's go. You guys I'm so excited about my friend. She is here today Ruth Simons to tell you that we have been through it together is an

under exaggeration. There are so many moments Ruth that we have been thrown together and had the deepest talks and gone to the deepest places.

It feels like we have been close friends, living life together as neighbors for years, and yet

we have not clocked that much time together, but what we have clocked has been real and deep

and in moments of fear and trembling and in moments where we're experiencing God and hearing from God.

And so it's such an honor to have you on today.

And I cannot wait for you to just bring everybody

into your life, into your daily routine, because we're talking about self importance versus

humility and a lot of our conversations personally have existed in this

little stratosphere of this conversation so that's why I had to have you on for this is just

I love that you you totally summarized our relationship so perfectly I love you and I love that

that's how we are that we just go in deep and I'm just grateful for you.

Thanks for having me on. Okay so let's go into the most recent episode of our

friendship which was if gathering which was only a few weeks ago. So let's talk for just a minute about that experience for you

Why don't you start by just telling everybody my wonderful vision for your life. Maybe that will be a picture into our friendship as well.

Yep. So last fall I was so excited to be joining if lead again and like I think probably

like two or three weeks before the actual conference Jenny text me and says I just have this thought what if you just spoke but also painted from stage kind of like that one Instagram hyperlapse video that you posted and I'm thinking Jenny that's like a

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