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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

S2E6 / Bodies Remember What Was Done to Them

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

KFF Health News and Just Human Productions

Society & Culture, #Eradication, Medicine, #Covid, Science, Life Sciences, #Sarscov2, Documentary, #Coronavirus, #Covid19, Health & Fitness, #Smallpox

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Trust is hard to build and easy to break. In Episode 6 of the “Eradicating Smallpox” podcast, meet Chandrakant Pandav, a health worker who used laughter and song to try to rebuild trust with communities harmed by India’s sometimes violent and coercive family planning campaign.

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0:00.0

In the early 1970s, all around the world worries about overpopulation we're mounting.

0:09.1

Politicians warned about the dangers.

0:10.9

Our cities are going to be choked with people, they're going to be choked with traffic, they're

0:15.2

going to be choked with crime, and they will be impossible places in which to live.

0:20.4

Popular books like the Population Bomb suggested an impending apocalyptic future.

0:25.4

Copy paperbacks were passed around capturing people's imagination and stoking fears.

0:30.9

Two million copies of the Population Bomb were sold, and the author landed on late-night

0:35.5

television, his dire predictions becoming entertainment for Americans sitting at home

0:40.4

on their couches.

0:42.1

Meanwhile, on the other side of the globe, India, with its growing population, was in the

0:46.6

crosshairs of the world's anxieties.

0:49.3

In the early 50s, India had launched a family planning program, and that state-sponsored

1:06.7

campaign got political and financial backing from international organizations like the World

1:11.4

Bank, American foundations like Ford and Rockefeller.

1:15.6

Republicans were dispatched across India to get people to have fewer children, sometimes

1:20.3

voluntarily, sometimes for a monetary reward, sometimes using force.

1:27.4

Violence and coercion created distrust.

1:30.6

In this episode, we'll explore how that distrust affected the public health campaign to stop

1:35.8

smallpox, and ask, what is the path to restoring trust?

1:40.7

I'm Dr. Celine Gounder, and this is Epidemic.

1:43.5

Good afternoon, my name is Dr. Chandrakhanda Kank Pandav, this is a recording in my office

2:12.2

at New Delhi.

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