Hello and welcome to Foundation the official podcast from Apple TV Plus. I'm Jason

Katsapsion. This is your guide to the galaxy from Trantor to Terminus and

hundreds of millions of other world's spaces a big place. We aim to make it

smaller and brighter and add some context to everything that you see on the

show. Every week I'm recapping and breaking apart each episode of season two

with Foundation Showrunner and Executive Producer David Eskoyer. Welcome back

David. Thanks for having me. Today we're talking about episode four with the

stars are scattered thinly. We have a guest here during this last season. It's

Foundation Co-executive, producer Lee Dana Jackson. Thanks for coming on the

podcast in Dana. Thank you. I'm super excited to be here. I'll start with the

recap. This episode is so fun. It was written by both of you and directed by

Mark Tonder. We start on Trantor where Sarath is investigating the Empire's

role in the death of many of her family members. Don denies any role in it

says, you know, I'll look into it. I don't think it was us, but I'll look into

it. Sarath clearly feels like Don is maybe the more approachable, more cynical

version, the more malleable version of the Emperors. Yeah. You have a one

to have us marry. I think we'd have suited. And we're getting some drama here

meanwhile. We learned that Sarath's counselor Rue was once a court is on,

bedded by dusk when he was day. Empire tends to get worse than late. For

example, I'm much smarter now than when last we talked. I wouldn't remember. Of

course, like all the other courtesans, she doesn't remember any of this. Her

memory was raced and he suggests something quite romantic. Hey, let's watch the

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