S2E23: It’s Never Too Late | Talk Tracks

The Telepathy Tapes

Ky Dickens

Mediumship, Neuroscience, Documentary, Second Sight, Psi, Spirituality, Science, Esp, Near Death Experience, Spelling To Communicate, Society & Culture, Consciousness, Human Potential, Near Death Experiences, Psi Phenomena, Investigative Podcast, Documentary Podcast, Animal Communication, Psychadelics, Intuition, Energy Healing, Reincarnation, Psychic Phenomena, Autism, Science And Spirituality

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🗓️ 1 April 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

What if communication can open at any age?

In this episode of the Talk Tracks, Ky Dickens sits down with Betsy Hicks Russ and her son Joe, who began spelling in adulthood after decades of being underestimated. As communication opens, so does a new understanding of Joe’s inner life, his humor, his insight, his spirituality, and the depth of what he has long been aware of.

Together, they explore presuming competence, the emotional transformation that comes when someone is finally able to express themselves, and the mystery of connection that can emerge between nonspeakers and those closest to them.

At the heart of this episode is Joe’s message to other families regarding spelling and opening up communication for nonspeakers: it is never too late.

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0:00.0	Hi, welcome back to the telepathy tapes talk tracks. Today we have Betsy Hicks Russ and her son, Joe, who just started to learn spelling at the age of 30.
0:10.8	And around that time is also when truth around telepathy and presuming competence and everything came out.
0:17.5	Joe's going to be up and down, in and out as he feels comfortable. And if you want to see
0:21.8	our incredible guests in person, we have a video version of this episode on the telepathy
0:26.0	tapes YouTube page.
0:31.0	Hi, everyone. I'm Kai Dickens, and I'm thrilled to welcome you to the talk tracks. In this series,
0:35.8	we'll dive deeper into the revelations,
0:41.7	challenges, and unexpected truths from the telepathy tapes. We'll feature conversations with groundbreaking researchers, thinkers, non-speakers, and experiencers who illuminate
0:46.5	the extraordinary connections that may defy explanation today, but won't for long.
0:55.9	If the telepathy tapes change the way you see your non-speaking child but left you
1:00.0	wondering what to do next, we made a show just for you.
1:03.0	The telepathy tapes Now What is a new companion series hosted by two parents of non-speakers
1:07.4	who've been there. They offer guidance, resources, and real conversations about
1:11.4	how to move forward once you know your child is truly in there. You don't have to figure this out
1:16.1	alone. Find Now What on the Telepathy Tapes YouTube channel and wherever you listen to your podcasts.
1:22.2	Today we have an incredible mother and son, Betsy and Joe. So why don't we start by introducing yourselves?
1:28.6	Hi, I'm Betsy Hicks-Russ, and I'm the mother of Joe, who's 32 years old. We live in the state of
1:33.9	Washington, and we have a lot of fun, being very, very active, cycling, hiking, and we bring
1:42.2	the world around with us as we do it.
1:44.5	And Joe, do you want to start by weighing in on anything at all?
1:50.1	H. I. And get there, get there. K.
1:55.6	I know. There you go. Hi, Kai. And is that it? Yeah, that's it. There we go. We're excited to have you here. There we go. There's a lot of enthusiasm in that. Yeah. Do you want to start by kind of giving your backstory? And what led to you on this couch today? I'd love to do the backstory because it's really interesting how it all unfolded. So Joe's 32. And I was in the
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