S2E17 – TGD 11 – “The Mother and The Lizard”

Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast

David Bates, Matt Bush, and Andrew Lazo

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 638 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2019

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

This week we meet two different ghosts, both of whom have disordered loves. The first is a mother who "loves" her son so much that it obscures everything, even God. The second is a man who struggles with lust, represented by a lizard on his shoulder. Fortunately, we finally have a ghost who chooses Heaven! Yay! Today's episode we continue discussing disordered loves and how certain kinds of love can be mistaken more easily for the real thing and, in setting themselves up as gods, become demonic. Click on the episode title for Show Notes!

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0:00.0	Pints with Jack, season two, episode 17.
0:03.7	The Great Divorce, Chapter 11, The Mother and the Lizard.
0:12.8	Friends, welcome to the Pints with Jack weekly podcast, where David and I have the distinct privilege of enjoying a drink together,
0:22.8	unpacking the writings of C.S. Lewis,
0:26.0	in discovering the truth and beauty of Christianity.
0:32.1	We are currently in season two in unlocking the treasures hidden within our favorite C.S. Louis work, the Great Divorce.
0:34.6	My name is Matt, and as always I am joined by my dear friend David. And as we will see
0:40.5	in this chapter with the first ghost to say yes so far in this book to God, I can say with
0:47.1	certainty if I say yes to transformation completely, it'll be because of the man on this
0:52.8	podcast with me.
0:55.8	Or at least in part.
1:04.3	Yeah, this chapter is great because we finally, finally have somebody say yes to heaven.
1:05.9	He couldn't leave us without hope.
1:09.2	I mean, you read this book and you think to yourself, my goodness,
1:10.9	this is there any chance, Any of us are getting there?
1:13.2	Yeah.
1:28.5	Well, for the drinks of the week, it's an early morning episode for David and I because he is just such a good evangelizer doing the book club that he needs to leave. All right.
1:28.9	You need to let off a little bit.
1:31.7	He needs to leave earlier than usual today.
1:35.5	So it's 8.30 for him.
1:36.8	It's 1130 for me.
1:37.9	So we're not doing alcohol.
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