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Hello Gary. Hi Guy, how are you? I'm very well. I'm very much looking forward to this. Are you?

Of course I can see something in your hand.

I've got to confess when we were researching this because as you know Gary and I

fastidiously researched all of our all of our interviews I'm up in my music

room and I was listening to going back to these albums and I was dancing around and I had to get the bass out because Nice, nice!

and of course.

And of course.

And of course. Well thanks for coming all this way guy. We've got your phone number, haven't we?

We'll let you know. So they're from New Gold Dream, right?

They are. What tracks? What tracks? Big Sleep and Gl and glittering prize and who played the original

Derek Forbes who I've got to say is one of my absolute absolute heroes of the

yet he was such an influential player but it's not him we got I would do a big

build up here and it's not well thank God she's had enough bass players on this

show it's the main man himself it's the it's a lead singer of simple minds. It is simple minds him and Charlie anyway

Yeah, Jim Kerr who I understand

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