Welcome to the Code Nubi podcast powered by the dev community, where we talk to people on their coding journey in hopes of helping you on yours.

I'm your host, Ron, and today we're talking about helping you build machine learning products with Pao Bajo,

machine learning engineer and educator at real-world machine learning.

Machine learning, it's very exciting, but it forces you to move constantly. If you don't move,

and if you've been here 10 years, you're out. So I'm constantly learning new stuff. So this is

the exciting part, but also the exhausting part. It's not easy. It's not easy.

If someone tells you it's easy, we're lying.

Pao and I talk about how he transitioned from working daily in Excel to Python,

why data is everything, and what skills early developers need to foster

if they want a career in machine learning?

After this.

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