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The Expert Witness from Uncover

S26 E6: The Magic Pipe | "The Outlaw Ocean"

The Expert Witness from Uncover

CBC

True Crime

4.510.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

When a ship inadvertently spills oil, it’s big news. But every three years, ships intentionally dump more oil than the Exxon Valdez, and BP spills combined. This episode highlights a vexing and woefully under-discussed problem. It is made possible by corrupt ship captains who use a so-called “Magic Pipe” that dumps oil discreetly under the water line rather than disposing of it on land as legally required. To learn about this problem, the episode tells the story of Carnival’s Caribbean Princess cruise ship, which used such a pipe and was caught, convicted and hit with the biggest fine in history. This case is set in a broader context of other forms of at-sea dumping, such as plastic pollution, and highlights how the sea has long — and perilously — been viewed as a bottomless trash can. Guest Interviews: Annie Leonard, CEO of Greenpeace, creator of “The Story of Plastic” Richard Udell, DOJ Prosecutor on the Caribbean Princess Case.


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0:00.0

Did you kill kill Marlene Johnson?

0:03.0

I think you're one of the first people to have actually asked.

0:06.0

From WB and ZSP media, this is beyond all repair.

0:11.0

A new podcast about an unsolved murder that will leave you questioning everything.

0:15.6

Wow, it just gets more interesting.

0:19.2

Beyond All repair, listen and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:27.0

This is a CBC Podcast.

0:31.0

Bunch in 2004.

0:34.0

Caribbean Princess, epitomizes style and grace.

0:37.0

Experience a new kind of Caribbean with Princess Crazy

0:41.0

ideal ship to help you come back new. Caribbean Princess is one of the largest passengerships on the planet.

1:03.6

952 feet long, it's got an outdoor movie theater,

1:07.2

19 decks, mini golf course, a casino.

1:11.3

It has rooms for more than 3,000 passengers and roughly a thousand crew.

1:16.0

You know, it's this massive thing which is one part Vegas Hotel, onepart amusement park.

1:25.0

I mean the entire experience is designed to avoid passengers thinking about things like,

1:31.0

you know, where does the trash go?

1:32.8

Where does the sewage go?

1:34.2

Where do those workers go when they're not catering to me?

1:37.3

What keeps the illusion alive is hiding all the bad parts

1:40.8

so that the passengers experience nothing but the sort of happy illusion.

1:47.0

Episode 6, the Magic Pipe.

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