Welcome to the Code to be podcast. We talk to people on their coding journey in hopes of helping you on yours. I'm your host, Saron, and today we're talking about learning to code with a full-time job with Bo Carnes, Director of Technology Education at FreeCodeCamp. I just started creating these short JavaScript tutorials about one concept.

And there were some parts of JavaScript that I didn't really know about until I was going

to create a video about it.

So I would actually have to learn about the topic and I could teach the topic.

That's really how I learned JavaScript.

Bo tells us about his experience stepping into tech as his third career,

and how combining code with his background and video production and teaching

has helped further develop his skills after this.

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Hey, yeah. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be on the podcast. So tell me a little bit about yourself when you were a kid. Were you into technology? Were you into computers as a child?

A little bit. When I was younger, I learned to programming Q-BASIC. And my dad got me a book about programming. So I learned some basic things and I did a little bit on the like a

T-A-83 calculator. I did some programming on that. But I wasn't doing tons of programming. I just got

like the general exposure to programming because I ended up not really pursuing software at first.

I just became a software developer about six years ago,

and this is really my third career. So I had a little bit of experience as a kid, but kind of got

directed away a little bit, and then I've kind of come back to it. Was the directed away coming from

you and you finding other things more interesting, or was it the adults or the schools in your life

kind of taking you a different place? Yeah. I mean, when I was doing some basic programming

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