Welcome to the Code Newby Podcast.

We talk to people on their coding journey in hopes of helping you on yours.

I'm your host, Ron, and today we're talking about coding boot camps and coding journeys

with Mark Thompson, senior developer relations engineer at Google.

They have a budget, they want to get a deal, but you are not there to be their deal. Senior Developer Relations Engineer at Google.

They have a budget, they want to get a deal, but you are not there to be their deal.

They come back with an offer, and I still reject it.

And I asked them to come back with a better number.

The reason I'm so confident about the offer and the salary stuff is because I know people are making this type of money.

And I'm not a person who's like, oh, everybody, you got to make six figures on your first job.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

I'm just saying that people are out here getting paid.

So why shouldn't you get paid?

Mark talks about his tech journey, his thoughts on coding boot camps,

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Thank you for having me. I am super pumped up to be here and like genuinely I'm a little starstruck to

meet you. So let's go. Thank you. That's very nice of you to say. So let's take into where it all

started for you. What first got you interested in code?

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