S21 Ep7: The Greatest Misconceptions About Women in Prison with Lady Edwina Grosvenor Justice System Reformer, Founder & Chair of One Small Thing

Conversations of Inspiration

Holly Tucker MBE

Education, Business, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Entrepreneurship, Personal Journals

5 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2024

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

What drives someone born into one of the UK’s most prominent aristocratic families to dedicate their life to prison reform, particularly advocating for the needs of women behind bars?

In this episode, Holly speaks with the remarkable Lady Edwina Grosvenor, whose background might lead you to expect a life of privilege and tradition—but her story is anything but conventional. Edwina shares how, “From a really young age, I felt that injustice of the luck of birth,” an early realisation that sparked her commitment to the most marginalised members of society.

From the impact of privilege on her perspectives to her work in addressing the systemic injustices faced by incarcerated women—like the lack of access to basic necessities—Edwina shares a rare, firsthand view of the hidden world of prisons. She dives into the complex relationship between domestic violence and incarceration rates, and why trauma-informed care is essential for breaking cycles of recidivism.

She challenges us all: “Do we want our prisons to be warehouses for the incorrigible or greenhouses for the redeemable?” Her vision for a more compassionate justice system is clear: “Should we be helping people to lead a better life or should we be actively preventing it?”

Listen now for a conversation that will open your eyes, challenge your assumptions, and inspire you to consider how empathy can drive real change. Join us in exploring the hidden world of prisons and the transformative power of hope.

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Trigger warning: This episode includes discussions about the deaths of babies, which may be distressing for some listeners. If you need to, please skip from 26 to 28 minutes. Take care while listening.

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0:00.0	women can't get their sanitary products when they need to.
0:03.3	They're put in men's clothing.
0:05.2	They're asked to stitch men's underwear in some prisons in our country.
0:10.5	I was really looking forward to speaking to my guests this week and it's one of those
0:14.7	interviews that I have a feeling that is going to shift the way you see her specialist
0:21.3	subject forever. It certainly has mine because Lady Eduina Grovener
0:26.7	has made it her life's mission basically to shine a light into the darkest corner of the prison system and it's one of those areas I think of
0:37.0	society that we think often outside or out of mind and it's a place most of us overlook and we don't understand and what I loved
0:47.3	about this interview is that Eduina through her experience of 25 years. Not expected is it as a lady or the
0:57.6	goddaughter of Princess Diana but yeah she's been at this for 25 years and is using her voice and her resources and her
1:07.4	relentless passion and her expertise to challenge the system and to certainly challenge it for women, and to certainly challenge it for women,
1:16.0	women in the prison system.
1:18.0	And it's podcast like this that I absolutely love sharing,
1:22.0	because not only do we learn so much about what we should all know,
1:28.8	but also we learn more about humanity and redemption and second chances
1:36.0	and the chances of us being born into different types of families.
1:41.0	And yet how somehow in the walls of a prison those two worlds can collide and
1:47.6	create a connection that sparks change and I promise you that this is a conversation that's going to make you think differently
1:57.0	about those in prison, women in prison,
2:01.0	the unfairness towards women yet again.
2:05.0	An Eduina's path of purpose and a hope of transforming lives
2:11.0	that so need her help. I really hope you take so much from this
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