Something Was Wrong is intended for mature audiences, as it discusses topics that can be upsetting,

such as emotional, physical, and sexual violence, rape, and murder.

Content warnings for each episode and confidential resources for survivors can be found in the episode

notes. Some survivor names have been changed for anonymity purposes.

pseudonyms are given to minors in these stories for their privacy and protection.

Testimony shared by guests of the show is their own and does not necessarily reflect

the views of myself, broken cycle media, or Wondery. The podcast and any linked materials should not be construed as medical advice,

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Thank you so much for listening.

You think you know me, you don't know me well, at all, at all.

You can't know me.

You don't know anybody until you talk to someone.

I am super excited to welcome Payne Lindsay to our show this week.

I have been a longtime follower of your work pain since 2016 when you launched, which is crazy to me that it's been that long.

The world was a different place then.

You referenced that going

into the fourth season that you're coming into this season eight years later, right? I think so.

I feel old when you say that. I know. It's like me having a 15 year old now. I'm like, I can't

hide my age now. Yeah, it is what it is. Yes. It is what it is. What I loved about your style of what I classify as

like audio documentaries is that it really brings people alongside you in the journey and you have

such a natural ability for your writing really lends to it and you're very likable, easy to follow.

You break it down in a way that's just really approachable. And I think that it makes even the most brand new person to these sorts of

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