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Until then, enjoy the program. Hello, and welcome to the undisclosed addendum.

I am John Cryer, and you were listening to the podcast about all things undisclosed.

Now, in episode 12 of Undisclosed, exit wounds, Colin and Susan deconstructed the state

of Georgia's ballistic evidence against Joey Watkins and discovered some troubling discrepancies

between what they found and what they actually testified to that clearly favored the prosecution.

Now, with us today is one of the hosts of undisclosed, Colin Miller.

He is an associate dean and professor of law at the University of South Carolina School of Law,

and he blogs at Evidence Prof blog. Hello, Colin. How you doing?

Hey John, I'm pretty good. All right. But we also have guests this week.

Our first guest is Congressman Keith Ellison. He's the U.S. representative for Minnesota's

5th Congressional District since 2007. He's the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive

Caucus and the Chief Deputy Whip. He serves on the House Committee on Financial Services,

but he's also a longtime defense attorney and the host of We, the Podcast, which you should

check out if you get a chance. You might also remember him from the recent TV hit, the C-SPAN Wells Fargo Comedy Hour,

which were the congressional hearings that looked into the fraud at Wells Fargo.

Now, full disclosure, I was the voice of Wells Fargo commercials for about five years. It was, seize your someday, Wells Fargo.

That was me.

I was surprised that I was not called before the Congressional Committee.

I was expecting that phone call at some point, because I, but I have to say, I defrauded relatively few people.

Not as many. But actually, Congressman,

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