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How do you cope with Ellis and John?

Hello everybody and welcome to How Do You Cope with Ellis and John.

This week our guest is former children's laureate, poet, writer Michael Rosen, who some of you may have read and followed in the press and in social media he was in intensive care with COVID very early on in the

lockdown actually wasn't it it was yeah he got it quite early and because he has a social media presence that was sort of up, we were kept updated with his progress.

Well, he initially tweeted his way through the early part of the illness,

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