Hello everybody, welcome back to Crime Weekly. I'm Stephanie Harlow.

And I'm Derek Lovasser.

So today we're heading into part three of the current series. I can say that I've been

spending so much more time with this case than I usually do, going over time lines, going

over cell phone records, going over like cell phone towers, you know, trying to learn

about cell phone towers because it's a whole different language. And it's just been

an incredibly frustrating journey so far because I'm used to kind of being able to organize

things. And it's just so impossible to organize this case and the details of it in a way

where it makes sense at all. And you know, I think a lot of people feel that way, hopefully

now that you know, we're together here and we can run things by each other. We can clear

things up a little bit, but it's just been a wild ride. How have you been doing with

the case?

Good. I'm definitely invested in it now. And this is one of those cases where I think it's

good to sit here and listen to you kind of lay it all out. But I had to do my own research

as well too because there's just so much to it. And just to be completely transparent, there's

so many people invested in this case. And frankly, there's people who feel like they know

the case better than the people who worked it. So you really got to be as people in this

field, we really have to dot our eyes and cross our teeth because we know, unfortunately,

there are people who are watching and listening to this just to call us out on something and

just do some waiting to pounce on something we say or do so that they can say, see, they're

full of shit. They don't know what they're talking about. So I'm not saying that's the majority

and that's the profession we're in. So we sign up for it. It's something I'm very used

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