What becomes possible when we reject binaries?

Can we make room for what's real and who we actually are?

Have you considered what harm goes into enforcing unnecessary standards and who disappears in

our insistence on rigidity?

As Sean Cipherwall shares in this episode, Justice for Intersex Children and Adults

is the work of healing generations, and setting us and our futures free from the violence

of binaries.

Sean Cipherwall is a black, queer, intersex activist, scholar, and somatic practitioner.

He is the co-founder of the Intersex Justice Project, which is a grassroots initiative

by intersex people of color, and he's my longtime friend.

I always enjoy how deep and joyful our conversations are, and I hope that you enjoy this episode.

What's up, Cipher?

Yo, what's up?

Can you talk to me, baby?

I'm really glad to be in conversation with you, and being in conversation with you in

kind of a different way today.

I get to talk to you about your work and your offering into the world, and maybe a kind

of slightly deeper way than we usually get into it.

Yeah, that sounds dope.

Excited to be with you.

I wanted to start, usually we start with a question of kind of where are we, and we'll

get there, but I wanted you to just, if you could remind me how we met.

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