I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone. Welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast. I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Jeffrey Wansall.

Hello everyone. Thank you again for listening and we hope you enjoy it. We always do.

Hi, Dad. How you doing? I'm fine. I got back from a trip to Tunisia to the Sahara.

How did it go?

It was fine.

It was very good.

It was very good weather.

But you've had good weather here, I gather.

But it was very good weather.

We have one thunderstorm, which was dramatic, and one morning of rain.

But otherwise, it was, you know, cloudless skies pretty much. What temp was it? Average of 30. Hot? Yeah, 30, 31. But they've been very hot, and the summer they were 45. It's been very, very hot. 45? Yeah, especially on the edge of the Sahara. How do you stay cool? Well, even at 30. Oh,

it's quite easy,

actually, because it only gets to 30 at a very specific point of the day. Running up to and down from it, you know, what you don't want to do is to go outside very much in the heat of the, no, no, day sun. It's the same old, No old card advice.

Mad dogs and Englishmen go out from the midday sun.

Uh, in the heat of the no no no old car device mad dogs and englishmen go out in the midday sun

but it was very cool the trouble is it is a long old trip because you fly to tunist then you change

planes you fly to tozer in this case then you drive for two hours then you get to dues then you go to

subria then you come back from subria then you go to gerba then you fly from gerba to Tunis, then you come back to London. It's a kind of a bit of a flip. It's really far. It's a long way. But it's very, very, very, very good and very interesting. And it was a good trip. I enjoyed it. It was nice to take Flora Menzies with us. Did you have a good time? I think she did, yes.

I think she was really surprised. It was a very good trip. I enjoyed it. It was nice to take Flora Menzis with us.

Did you have a good time?

I think she did, yes. I think she was really surprised how authentic it was.

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