It's funny, just listening to you, I think, well, that doesn't sound.

Like, they're not going to do that.

Right.

But then there's the part of me that's like, I don't know.

Why would I have that confidence?

They have done nothing to earn that confidence for me.

This is the problem.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the illegal news. I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark.

And as always, I'm not a lawyer. So each week, I've got a real lawyer who joins me. And today is the great Leah Lippman, co-host of the strict scrutiny podcast, Professor of Law at the University of Michigan. Go Blue. My producer put that in. And author of the book, Lawless,

how the Supreme Court runs on conservative grievance, fringe theories, and bad vibes, which

is out on paperback today. Very exciting. Yeah, I'm very exciting. It's like a sequel. I'm calling it

Leah's version in the spirit of Taylor Swift since I got to write a new section in a bunch of updates.

So I was just going to ask that. Is that what gets to happen? Because this is the, when you write a book about this particular moment in time, there's so many parts in the book where I say, at this moment, this thing is happening. It's like, I was just in Minneapolis and this was happening. And then I

just read it for the audiobook. And I was like, well, that feels like a long time ago now.

Exactly. So my initial manuscript kind of wrapped up in January 2025 before Donald Trump really

assumed office. And we saw how his relationship with the Supreme Court might play out.

And so I asked my publisher,

basically, can I effectively write a new chapter and more about the course relationship with Trump

and what that says about the court and whatnot? And they said, yes. So I just spun out a new section

on the unitary executive theory and a lot of what we seen the Supreme Court do vis-a-vis the Trump

administration,

which was fun in a dark kind of way. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you did that. And I'm glad you're here

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