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The Illegal News with Sarah Longwell

S2 Ep145: In the Epstein Releases, Victims Came LAST (w/ Andrew Weissmann)

The Illegal News with Sarah Longwell

The Bulwark

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.93.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Weissmann explains to Sarah Longwell why Pam Bondi’s bizarre hearing indicates deep problems at the Justice Department. From the DOJ’s handling of the Epstein files to the FBI’s raid on Georgia’s Fulton County election office, they discuss what’s happening behind the scenes—and whether core legal standards are being ignored.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the illegal news. I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark and the lawyer

0:06.2

explaining the law to me today is Andrew Weissman, former senior DOJ lawyer, former general counsel to the FBI, and current host of the main justice podcast. Glad to have you back, Andrew. It's wonderful to see you.

0:19.9

It's nice to be here.

0:22.3

Of course, all I'm thinking about is what we're going to talk about.

0:25.9

So I'll start with the good news. It is nice to see you.

0:30.6

Was anything else nice happening in your life? You have any nice fun events? Anything good?

0:35.5

Funny. Yes, I did. Okay. This is a good story, but it has, you know what,

0:39.6

it's probably like a good breather for people because it's like a good story and then

0:43.4

we're going to talk about things that are going to get people's blood boiling.

0:47.1

But I was in, so I was invited to be on this TV program in Paris, which is in English.

0:56.7

It's on France 24.

0:58.7

And I teach and they're like, but we need you to be here at a certain time.

1:04.0

They said, we'll send a car for you.

1:05.3

And so I run out of class.

1:07.8

I like run downstairs, but it's pouring cats and dogs in the car isn't there to

1:13.0

like whisk me off. And I'm like, where's the car? Where's the car? And this guy shows up on a

1:17.6

motorcycle and he's like, I'm your taxi. No. And so then he like dresses you, like completely

1:27.0

covers you in like, you know, gloves and helmets.

1:31.2

And what's great, of course, is the helmets all have, you know, walkie-talkie things.

1:34.8

So you can hear music.

1:35.9

You can talk to them.

1:37.7

And it's still.

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