S2 Ep136: Running the Same Dead Case Back to Another Grand Jury? That’s Desperation.

George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell)

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.8 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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George explains to Sarah the Supreme Court’s newest fights, Trump’s push to control independent agencies, the mess inside his DOJ, the failed effort to indict Letitia James, Alina Habba’s pitiful stint as U.S. attorney, and why the Epstein grand-jury files are finally being forced into the open under the new transparency law.

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0:00.0	I do really think that the real problem is that it's not that we have a unitary executive,
0:06.0	but we have a wayward executive. We have a corrupt executive. We have an executive who defies
0:11.6	the law, who fails to execute the laws properly because he doesn't consider himself bound by the laws.
0:23.4	Hello, everyone, and welcome to George Conway explains it all to Sarah.
0:28.9	I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark, and because I'm not a lawyer, I've asked George
0:33.1	Conway from the Society for the Rule of Law to explain all the illegal news to me. Hey, man.
0:40.3	Hey, how are you? Oh, I'm great. Hey, I heard you got, I heard some, there were some, like,
0:46.3	guitar people who were very excited about your guitar talk. Yes, we received, the board received a message
0:53.7	from the general counsel of the Martin guitar company.
0:58.0	He's just a listener?
0:59.7	Yeah, he's a listener.
1:01.0	And, you know, I'm going to ask.
1:03.9	My ask is a factory tour someday.
1:06.2	I don't know when I'm going to have a chance to do it.
1:07.8	But we'll see.
1:10.0	Oh, that's cute. That's cute. All right, George, we have to bring some bulwark merch with me or something. You do. I'm rep in the merch right now. This is my favorite new merch that we have. Yeah, I heard about the new merch. This color is called butter yellow. And I love it. Butter yellow. Yeah. Wow. Okay.
1:29.0	All right. We have so much to get to today, guys. We are going to do a speed session. It's going to take us a whole hour, but we're going to get through a lot of content. We are going to start with the big case that on Monday, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Trump v. Slaughter, a case on whether
1:49.1	the president can fire members of the Federal Trade Commission. Now, you may think that sounds
1:54.7	boring, and you may be like, God, I can't, why do I have to listen to stuff about the FTC?
1:59.5	This is an extremely important case,
2:01.5	okay? By way of background, the FTC has five commissioners. They're appointed by the president,
2:06.7	confirmed by the Senate, and they serve seven-year terms. So under the law, currently no more than
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