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S2 Ep134: What holds a relationship together when life falls apart ft Dr. Laura Berman

LOVERS by shan

LOVERS by shan

Sexuality, Society & Culture, Relationships, Health & Fitness

55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

What holds a relationship together when life falls apart? Most of us picture the happiest moments when we think about our partner, but what happens when tragedy hits? In this intimate conversation, Dr. Laura Berman shares how she and her husband weathered some of life’s hardest storms together. 

From dating him while she was caring for her young son with cancer, to the unimaginable loss of their son Sammy during the pandemic, Laura takes us inside the moments that tested their love, and the choices that kept them connected.

Days after the death of their first child together, Sam pulled Laura close and said, “Most couples don’t get through tragedies like this, but we will.” 
It’s a reminder that the strength of a relationship isn’t just built in joy, it’s forged in the fire of what you survive together.

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0:00.0

I didn't really expose people quickly to my son.

0:03.0

When I met Sam, because I felt it so quickly with him and we connected so quickly, I was like,

0:09.0

okay, I got to see how he hangs.

0:10.5

So I invited him over, and I let him sit at the kitchen table as I gave my son one of his chemo.

0:18.1

This is some heavy stuff.

0:19.6

Welcome.

0:20.2

Dr. Laura Berman, world-renowned sex, love and relationship therapist.

0:23.8

New York Times bestselling author and host of Language of Love podcast.

0:28.3

The day before, Sammy died, then you told me about the week after a conversation the two of you had.

0:35.9

I remember we were sitting in our living room together and he said, you know, I know that a lot of couples don't make it through the loss, something like this, the loss of a child.

0:44.8

But we're going to make it.

0:45.9

There is not a cell in my being that is going to be the same on the other side of this.

0:51.2

I hope you like her still.

0:53.0

Like, I don't know.

0:56.0

When we get into romantic partnerships, we often think about the future we plan for. Yeah. Why do you have to also consider the future

1:01.0

that we never want to imagine? Shoes matching the sweater. The glasses match the shoes and match the sweater. I just want to say a huge thank you to you for the work that you've done, for the groundwork that you've laid. You are a pioneer in this space. I feel like I couldn't have been here without you. I wouldn't have ever had the courage to even say yes to myself in this way. So thank you. That makes me feel really happy to hear.

1:28.5

That's amazing.

1:29.3

I think, I mean, you're doing amazing work.

1:31.5

I love, you know, I'm so happy to be a part of the we now.

1:36.6

New book coming out?

1:38.3

Yeah, that's incredible.

1:39.4

What book numbers is for you?

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