Hello and welcome to Series 2 episode 13 of Out with Susie Ruffle.

Hello, how are you doing? I hope that whenever you're listening to this,

you're having a good day, whether you are still in lockdown, like me me right now or whether it's at some

point in the future where you can go out for dinner with your friends and you can go

to the theater and you can go and sit in people's houses and cuddle people. If you're listening to it then

know that I'm very jealous of you and I'm looking forward to that point in

hopefully the not-too-distant future. It's Sunday morning, it's 20 to 10. I'm in my little box office

room thing, my big cupboard office I think is what I'd like to call it, my big cupboard office I think is what I'd like to call it my big cupboard office and I've already been for a walk which felt very nice to get up at 8 o'clock and go out for a walk.

It was really raining but I really like walking in the rain.

I listened to this week's episode of the podcast.

And I think it's a really special episode.

It's with my dear dear friend, Jessica Fostockew, and I think it's really great.

It's quite interesting as well, it's the first time that I've done a

podcast where I've been interviewing someone when I was sort of there during in their coming

out process. Jess came out a little bit later. Well I say a little bit later in her 30s, is that later?

Who knows? It was the right time for her.

But we talk all about that.

I think it's a really great episode. I'm very proud of it and I really hope you will enjoy it.

Before we get to that, thank you to everyone

that's got in touch after last week's episode. All of the messages. Brilliant episode with

Amar Kadi. If you haven't listened to it, go back and have a listen after this one, it's really great.

We've got lots of messages and emails and tweets and Instagram's and lots of reviews, which is really helpful.

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