S2 Ep124: Conway DESTROYS Trump’s Pathetic “RICO for Protests”

George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell)

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News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.8 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

JVL (sitting in for Sarah) is joined by George Conway to talk the administration’s “mob government” vibes, torching Todd Blanche’s RICO spin, the FCC squeeze on Kimmel, Trump’s $15B New York Times suit, and the Supreme Court’s shadow-docket green light on ICE profiling, plus why Fed independence is now on the line.

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0:00.0	We have a government that is acting not like a government for all the people.
0:05.0	It's acting like mobsters.
0:10.0	Makes sense because we elected a convicted criminal president of the United States.
0:14.0	We elected a man who is a sociopath.
0:17.0	While organizations are run by sociopaths.
0:23.6	Hello, everyone. Welcome to George Conway.
0:26.6	Explains it all to Sarah Longwell. He's George Conway. I'm not Sarah Longwell. I'm actually her best friend.
0:31.6	My name is JVL from the bulwark. George. It's been a minute. How are you, buddy? I'm hanging in there. How are you?
0:41.7	I know the two of us always like to get together to talk about our optimistic view of the world.
0:47.5	I mean, things are going great. Oh, they're just fabulous. It couldn't be better. Fabulous.
0:52.9	So we're going to start today.
0:55.0	We're going to start with some First Amendment stuff and some Rico stuff since that's a thing that's happening.
1:00.7	What Amendment?
1:01.5	Exactly.
1:02.4	The First Amendment?
1:04.3	First Amendment.
1:05.8	So we had Todd Blanche on CNN explaining the dangerous things that are happening to the president of the United States at Joe Stonecrab and suggesting how the Department of Justice might use RICO laws to clean that up.
1:25.3	Let's just listen to what Todd had to say, and then I want to ask you some questions.
1:29.9	As you know, RICO has been used to go after like Al-Qaeda, MS-13, the Gambino family.
1:36.0	How would something like that protest fall under a RICO charge?
1:41.4	That's not what we use RICO for only.
1:44.1	RICO is available to all kinds of organizations committing crimes and committing wrongful acts,
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