Hey friends welcome back to another episode of Theology and Ra my guest today is the one and only Ellen Radcliffe who's a therapist and the author of a book titled Love covers over a guide for Christian parents raising kids in an in an LGBTQ plus world she draws upon both her clinical expertise and her

experience as a former lesbian as she walks with parents in this really

important conversation we begin by talking about her own journey with her sexuality and her faith and then we move into talking more extensively about what she has learned over the years and walking with parents, Christian parents with LGBT-q kids. So very excited for you to listen to this really important

conversation. Please welcome to the show the one and only, Ellen Radcliffe. Thank you.

very. Helen, welcome to Theology Norell.

Helen, welcome to Theology Norell.

Thank you.

Very excited to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Why don't you tell us a bit about your story

to tell that plays a role in the current work you do.

And then we can jump into that current work that you do.

Yeah, well, just a, you know, preemptive note here.

I am a little bit sick.

I do have two young kids that are walking Petri dishes,

so they've infected me with their latest virus.

So if you hear a cough drop rolling around in my mouth I

apologize that's what's happening. But yeah I am a preacher's kid grew up in

church. I was really loved and well cared for growing up. There was nothing

majorly tragic or traumatic in my childhood, but I did grow up with sort of this

festering insecurity about my femininity. I grew up where I was more like my dad than I was like my mom and so at such a young age that was really confusing for me and it really frustrated me and so I dealt with that insecurity differently during my upbringing.

I started with turning it inwardly on me,

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