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Lovers and Friends with Shan Boodram

S2 Ep110: Lena Waithe: Don’t Have Sex With Someone If You Both Can’t Do THIS

Lovers and Friends with Shan Boodram

LOVERS by shan

Sexuality, Society & Culture, Relationships, Health & Fitness

55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Lena Waithe on Cuddling Over Climaxing
In this episode of Lovers and Friends, Shan Boodram sits down with Emmy-winning writer, producer, and actress Lena Waithe (Queen & Slim, Master of None, The Chi) for an eye-opening conversation about intimacy, love, and meaningful connections. Lena shares why you should never have sex with someone unless you can imagine a positive aftermath for both of you. She dives into how cuddling can create a deeper emotional bond than sex, especially when the future of a relationship feels uncertain. Lena also opens up about the power of plutonic relationships, revealing why some of her most impactful connections today are non-romantic. With all of the rumors about her love life, Lena sets the record straight and shares what truly matters to her in building authentic connections. This episode will challenge your views on love, intimacy, and boundaries in ways you won’t want to miss!

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0:00.0

I know people that can have sex with somebody and keep it going.

0:03.0

Yeah.

0:04.0

Everybody isn't built that way.

0:05.0

We all have to kind of look in somebody's eyes and really trust and ask and understand

0:12.0

and go, are we going to be good after?

0:16.0

Because if not, let's not even go there.

0:19.0

Are we really in a place emotionally to handle it?

0:22.6

Because I might be, but if I know in my heart of hearts, you aren't, the loving thing

0:30.6

is to say, no.

0:33.6

Out of love, not rejection.

0:38.3

I've had to realize that cuddling is just as significant as coming.

0:44.3

Having a real true level of intimacy with someone, I realize is just a significant as having sex with somebody. I felt a little bit of hurt and heartbreak

0:59.0

when there was a person who I did not have sex with.

1:04.0

But I think that person felt like what we had was not as significant

1:10.0

because we did not have sex.

1:11.6

Why didn't you have sex with that person?

1:14.6

You're not opposed to have sex with everybody.

1:16.6

You'll get like sunglasses and then without sunglasses.

1:20.6

You'll get both.

1:21.6

Oh wow. There's gonna be a transition.

1:23.6

Well, yeah.

1:24.6

Maybe.

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