Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. We are going deep on tariffs in the economy today. If you want my thoughts on some of the other issues of the moment, I've been a podcast slut lately. I was on Breaking Points today. Breaking Points is kind of the horseshoe podcast between Bernie and Maga types. And so that's interesting. We got to talk about the Newark Airport, David Hogg, the DNC drama, the Biden book, my political journey. So that could be interesting. We got to talk about the Newark Airport, David Hogg, the DNC drama, the Biden book,

my political journey. So that could be interesting. If that's not your cup of tea, I was also on with

Scott Galloway. I was guest hosting Raging Moderates. And so you could check out that too.

And we talked about, you know, all the stuff. So raging moderates, breaking points.

I'm on both of them.

But up next on this show, we've got Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the

University of Michigan.

He's also a senior fellow with the Brookings Institution.

And at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, co-host of the podcast,

Think Like an Economist and Audio Course in Economics. It's Justin Wolfers. Hey,

man. Hey. You're Aussie, I take it. You can tell just from the word hi. It's amazing.

You have an ear for an accent. I do. I do. Well, you know, I know the difference between the dingoes and

the Kiwis and all that. I'm wondering, how are you feeling about things down

there? We had a good election victory. Can we talk about that first before we get to the sad stuff?

Yeah, sure. One of my very dearest friends is part of the Labor Party government that was just

re-elected. Very interesting election for Americans to hear about, partly because I suspect there's not been

a lot of reporting. So you go back four months ago and the opposition Conservative Party was in the

lead in all the polls. The leader of that conservative party, like by the name of Peter Dutton,

decided he sort of run as a bit of Trump light. He, in particular, sort of anti-Woke.

And then he sort of started leaning into it.

Woke has hit Australia?

I didn't know that Woke's gone down under.

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