S2 Ep1038: Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin: The Power of 'No'

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Protest is the new brunch again. We're witnessing historic levels of pro-democracy grassroots engagement across a broad-based movement of everyday people. The leaders of Indivisible join Tim to discuss how the movement needs to stay focused on what it agrees on— no kings—and to save ideological disputes for another day. Plus, it also needs to get more young people involved. But it definitely should keep ignoring political consultants who tell Dems not to talk about immigration— because it turns out that the federal government kidnapping people off the street is not popular.

Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg join Tim Miller.
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Indivisible's "No Kings" protest day

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It is Thursday. Usually the next level pot is on Wednesday, but Sarah was traveling.
0:21.5	So we did a late night episode that got pretty punchy.
0:24.5	So if you're looking for politics and some bickering among friends,
0:28.3	that is the place to go.
0:29.6	That should be up by the time you hear this.
0:31.9	Check out the next level feed.
0:33.9	On this show, we're getting earnest and activisty,
0:37.4	once you all know is a little bit out of my comfort zone.
0:39.3	So I'm excited for it.
0:40.3	They are the co-executive directors of Indivisible,
0:43.3	the grassroots movement with thousands of local groups across the country.
0:47.3	Its mission to elect progressive leaders,
0:49.3	rebel our democracy, and defeat the Trump agenda.
0:52.3	The individual protests were the hands-off protest you saw a couple weeks ago.
0:56.4	And coming up, the next big one is Saturday, June 14th, where there will be no Kings rallies
1:01.6	and marches on the day that Trump is throwing himself a birthday military parade.
1:06.2	It is Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin, Levin?
1:10.5	Which one are we doing? Is it like Mark Levin, like the great one? Or Ezra Levin. Which one are we doing?
1:11.2	Is it like Mark Levin, like the great one?
1:12.9	Or Ezra Levin, like Sandy Levin?
1:14.8	You nailed it.
1:15.7	The first one, Levin.
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