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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1034: Derek Thompson: Trump's War on Dolls

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Just imagine Fox's histrionics if a President AOC had said that American kids have too many dolls and that she's raising the price on them. Now the supposedly pro-family administration is doubling down on 'just pay more’ for toys, while it waits for China to blink on tariffs—an unlikely event given that it makes a lot of the things the world needs and wants. Meanwhile, AI's economic threat may be here for recent college grads, Marc Andreessen has deep thoughts on VC, and the NIH (and future American Nobel Prizes) are being burned to own the libs. Plus, the Dems should zero in on how Trump is making America less affordable—and very much like 2020 again.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. I'm delighted to welcome back.

0:18.8

Staff writer at the Atlantic, author of the Work in Progress newsletter, his latest book

0:23.7

you might have heard of.

0:24.4

There's only been about 272 podcasts about it.

0:27.1

It's called Abundance, co-written with some guy named Desra Klein.

0:30.0

He also hosts the very excellent podcast, plain English.

0:33.5

It's Derek Thompson.

0:34.5

What's up, man?

0:35.5

Hey, man.

0:36.0

Let's make it 273.

0:37.2

All right, let's Derek Thompson. What's up, man? Hey, man. Let's make it 273. All right, let's do it.

0:38.4

Let's do it. Well, we're going to get to abundance at the end.

0:40.6

And, you know, I'm sure we've got some like, you know, bulwark daily sickos who have not listened to your other 272.

0:48.7

So we'll do a little bit on it.

0:49.6

But we've got some more pressing matters first. And I would like to begin with what I've been dubbing the

0:55.1

Rick Santelli Tea Party rant for the capitalist left. That was you on CNBC. And for those who

1:00.6

haven't heard it, let's play it right now. You're totally honest, Kelly, I've been listening to the last

1:05.4

10 minutes of the show. I cannot believe what I'm listening to. I heard your last guest say, if the economy shrinks, that's good.

1:13.6

If the stock market goes down, that's good.

1:16.6

If the housing market crashes, that's good.

1:19.6

If there's a trade war, that's good.

1:21.6

When did the capital class get taken over by degrowther protectionists

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