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Welcome to Raising Good Humans. I'm Dr. Alisa Pressman and I'm thrilled to have

Eve Rodz keep back on the podcast to help us find our unicorn space.

This is a conversation that's different from our typical conversations because it really centers

around you, not the kids, not the partners, you. And in doing so, of course, everybody's better

off for it. This is not a luxury. This is definitely a half-two, not a want-to, but it can feel

like a want-to. And that is why I love Eve Rodzki because she really walks through how to give

ourselves permission to explore our creativity and to experience flow and to experience well

being in a way that is manageable in this insane time. And I want to encourage everyone to go

sign up if you haven't already for my newsletter, Dr. Alisa.billatin.com. There's also an exclusive

subscription that is for a smaller group of people. It's more 99 a month, so I wanted it to be

super accessible. I want to be able to have conversations live and taped Q and A's and talk more

about how to put into action the concepts in the podcast. So go to dralisa.billatin.com. And if you

haven't already, don't forget to give a five-star rating and write a little review. Okay, that's

enough of asking things from you. Now I want to give you this gift of Eve Rodzki and finding your

uniform space. I feel like you have embodied the research on how we need to care for ourselves

in such a concrete way and such an inspiring way. And there cannot be more psychologists saying,

put your oxygen mask on first and take time for yourself and care for yourself, but it's getting

translated in these ways that are like, take a bath or go to a spa. And you have figured out a much

more actionable and bodied way of what this means. So I just want to dive into, can you tell us

what your unicorn space is? Well, one of the things where we call it,

a collective unicorn space. Yes, yes. Well, I think it's really important to understand that

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