Heading off in the car this summer, think trip.

TRIP. That's top-up, rest, inspect, prepare.

When you've got a big journey ahead of you, there is the temptation to push on and get some miles under your belt

but for a safer trip you should rest and stretch your legs every two hours.

This is crucial for the driver but I think it's really important for the kids too especially if

they've been strapped into car seats. Have a safe trip. Search National

Highways Trip. Welcome to Friendship Therapy. The podcast in which we look at Friendship

through a therapeutic lens.

This week, I'm joined by Rose, a primary school teacher and mother of three

who came to unpack her overthinking

and left understanding why it might come down to a fear of loss.

When she was nine years old Rose left Australia for a trip to England with her mother and brother, expecting her father to join them a fortnight later.

Tragically, Rose's dad never made it. He died suddenly the first week they were away and life would never

be the same again. In our conversation we start to wonder together whether her tendency to worry

about her friendships when she's not with them, might

have something to do with the death of her father.

And whether teaching a group of nine-year-olds for the first time this year might have emerged some big feelings for the nine-year-old for the nine-year-old she once was.

I hope you enjoy listening to our conversation and would love to know whether you come to the

same conclusion we do, but it's hard to feel, but sometimes

it's harder not to.

Hi Rose, how can I help? Hi Emma. Well I wrote in to the podcast because having listened to season

one I started thinking inevitably I think about my own friendships and sort of came to the conclusion

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