This episode is being brought to you by a tour that's being offered through Spark, the Society for the Preservation of Ancient Religious Cultures.

It's a tour of Egypt that will be happening this April, as a former student of mine, who's gone on to get a couple of masters in Egyptology and museum studies and so on, and that works with me on my excavation, is leading this tour.

It's going to come out while we're doing the excavation, so you'll be able to come and see our excavation, and I'll be part of it. for probably about 80% of it, I'll be with you as well.

There will be sometimes I can't because they'll have to be busy with the excavation,

largely on the Anil tour part.

But most of it I will be with you as well. There will be sometimes I can't because they'll have to be busy with the excavation largely on the Anil tour part. But most of it I will be with you. And so you'll get some things for me and some things from my student Bethany and from a tour guide and all sorts of fun things that are available for you. I think it's going to be a great tour. Things in Egypt are still calm. It's not like Israel. You're a long ways away from there and things are good and safe there. I've been talking with people who are there right now and there are no problems. So we would encourage you if you want to learn about this to go to sparkproject.org. That's S-P-A-R-C-S-Parkproject.org and check out the tour.

Hello and welcome to the Scriptures A Real Podcast.

This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that have helped them

become real to us because we believe that allows us to apply them to our lives better and

draw more power out of them as a result and we need all the help we can get.

I'm your host, Kerry Mealstein, and I'm so happy to have with me again, my wonderful

friend and colleague, Dr. Philip Alred, who typically is teaching at BYU, Iowa, Idaho, but right now is

teaching here in Provo with me and the Department of Church History and Doctrine, but still the same

college as me, religious education. And as I've said before, we've taught at the Jerusalem Center together. He obtained

degrees at BYU and at Notre Dame and is just all around a great teacher, great scholar,

and great guy. So welcome back, Phil. Thank you. Thank you. Very kind of inspection.

What did I get wrong or what didn't I say that I should have?

Or what would your mother wish I'd said that I haven't said yet?

That's right. Yeah, right on nothing. It's beautiful. I'd like to live up to what she said. so I'll work on. Well, all right. I'm not writing your obituary just yet, just so you know, we're not going there yet.

But anyway, so okay.

Well, I'm so glad to have Phil with me.

Hopefully by now you've listened to Revelations 1 through 4 with Dr. Andrew Skinner.

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