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I remember thinking when I was going through that really difficult patch at school where I was being bullied.

One day I'll prove you all wrong and one day you'll wish that you'd be nicer to me.

And I'm grateful for that dry.

Welcome to Big Fish with me, Spencer Matthews.

Each week I speak to inspirational people about how they reach the top of their game and

their mindset for success.

Elizabeth Day has absolutely revolutionised how we think about failure.

Her chart-topping podcast How to Fail is currently

in its 17th season and led to a best-selling book of the same name, which is an honest

celebration of all of the things that have gone wrong in her life. Elizabeth has made so many

of us rethink what failure means and shows us that it's absolutely key in achieving success.

She is also a best-selling author, and prior to podcasting, she was a writer at some of the UK's best-known publications.

There is so much to learn from her wisdom, and I know that you'll get so much from this

conversation.

You're the queen of failure, and I mean that in the best possible way.

What was the moment that you decided that failure would be your USP?

It came about, and I can pinpoint the moment almost exactly, three weeks before my 39th birthday, when I had just been dumped.

And my 30s were a decade of intense transition where I had got

married to the wrong person. I had tried and failed to have a child of my own and I'd done

unsuccessful fertility treatment and I'd had the first of three miscarriages. And then I got into a

new relationship where I thought I'd made different decisions and I thought I'd learned more about my judgment.

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