S2 E86 Rabbi Joe on James, Joy, Pain, Trials and Wholeheartedness (week of Nov. 13, third episode)

The Scriptures Are Real

Kerry Muhlestein

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Courses

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🗓️ 12 November 2023

⏱️ 82 minutes

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In this episode Rabbi Joe Charnes and Kerry dive deep on the first 8 verses of James. They discuss the relationship of trials and being built up so that we can become complete, or wholehearted. They look at the meanings of the words used in these four verses and how we can become more godly through these trials. They then wrestle with the heavy questions of whether or not you can truly find joy in the worst kind of evil in your life, and whether any of this can truly help you to become perfect in this life. They ask if James is right that joy can come from experiencing evil.

We are grateful for our sponsor, Lisa Spice, and for our editor, BJ Muhlestein, and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Kerry Mulesstein, and you're about to listen to what I think is a very special episode where Rabbi Tarnas and I discuss and wrestle with issues of joy and pain and struggle and suffering and growth.
0:16.6	And we have some good wrestles and discussions with it.
0:20.0	I just want you to be aware that as we do
0:22.9	so, I mention I don't describe it, as I'm thinking of some of the worst kinds of suffering,
0:28.5	I mention the existence of some kinds of assaults that I know hearing mentioned can be traumatic triggers for some people. And so I just
0:40.5	wanted to make you aware of that ahead of time that we will mention that and that if this is a
0:45.4	kind of trigger you want to avoid, you should know of it ahead of time. Now I hope you'll enjoy the
0:49.5	episode. It's deep, but I think it can some some real growth to it. Thank you.
0:59.9	Hello and welcome to the scriptures are real. This is the podcast where we talk about elements
1:07.4	of the scriptures that have made them become real to us because we believe that helps us draw more power from them. I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein, and I'm so happy to
1:14.8	have back with me our wonderful special guest, Rabbi Joe Charnas. Welcome, Rabbi.
1:20.9	Thank you. Thank you, Professor. So honored to be here looking forward to what I hope is
1:27.2	a reflection on our brother James,
1:32.2	Jacob, Iacobus in Greek. That's right. That will leave us with with much to
1:37.6	reflect on. I'm sure we will. So for those of you who don't, maybe are brand new to the podcast, we had
1:47.0	the rabbi on when we did Colossians not very long ago. And so to learn more about him and
1:53.2	his interfaith work and how we got connected and all that kind of thing, I'd encourage you to go
1:57.7	and listen to that episode. Before we get going today, let me maybe just
2:02.4	take care of a little bit of business. We would love for everyone to take advantage of an
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