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Paul Wagner here with Murder in a safe place.

Last week, we brought to the first half of a two-hour conversation with Detective Nelson and the three Crandall siblings,

in which we covered some lingering questions about the case.

In this week's episode, the conversation is just a little bit lighter with some behind-the-scenes stories of an hour-long

interview with Tiffany that had to be scrapped, the challenge of conducting interviews in a park,

and how physical descriptions of Bernie and the Crandals came to be. I needed some help in

writing some of those. You don't want to insult anyone.

Detective Nelson also takes us a little bit deeper into the world of genealogy

and why he's hopeful of finally fighting Sherry's killer.

What follows is an edited conversation hosted by me

and producer Julia Ziegler, who has the first question.

What was that like? So you said, you worked with Bodie, but you weren't, you weren't getting your hopes up.

Where were you when you got the call or got the email from them saying, hey, we found, we found a, you know, a match or we found a relative.

And what, how did that feel to you?

What was going through your head?

You're asking me, correct?

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