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Hello. Hello me again this is part two of this week's Scrum 5 podcast so we did all the diary stuff yesterday, the news related, sort of reflection stuff. Today is the fun.

So this is kind of the real reason why we went up to St. Albans yesterday.

I had a little sit-down with Liam Williams,

and then we were joined a little bit later on by one of Martin's old mates. So the reason why we came up here?

It's a long way as well, isn't it?

My feet, I bet be getting a big fee for this one.

Oh yeah, don't worry about that.

Three hours in a car all the other.

You're getting paid for the conversation, putting up with it, laughing on.

So, um, one... with it, laughing on. So one guy out of the Wales backline we hadn't had on.

Never had this guy on the pod.

Is that right? Everybody else on the pod over the years and this guy's...

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