Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

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You're listening to BBC Sounds. Welcome to the last Scrum Five Women's Six Nations podcast, that's sad sad times but I'm sure we've done such an

amazing job we'll be back before we know it I am Philip Petutiette yet and you are

not my normal co-host? I am not no. So I'm Troy I usually produce I'm not

used to doing this but I'm here just to sort of keep things in check this week

because Sarran usually does that. Yeah, Serin unfortunately was tied up with work, so gutted, missing her already, but it's okay I'm in charge, I think. But so because I'm in charge, I've got my two best friends with me to hold my hand.

So we are joined by fellow rugby international teammate and turned pundit

Carol James. good evening.

Hello.

And also, Desmond it, but still playing.

We'll talk about that later, maybe.

Okay, I'm ready for it.

Okay, so we're to start off with the last round of games round five

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