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podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

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and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

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Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. A lunchtime time appointment this week because we have a squad announcement.

Cut the edge of me right.

Right on the edge of it.

I turned up at 12 known when the, exactly as a squad.

So what he would get on my coffee, I was looking on social media to see.

That's how we split the duties. Yeah, so I was looking at the

squad being announced live which I haven't I haven't seen that. Apart from my

lying squad you watch but you know yeah no no really because usually training or whatever, I knew.

I watch all the lying squads lives because I think that's really good because nobody knows

you're always going to be in.

No, no, no, no, even know, since you've finished as well.

I sort of make sure you're in front of the tally.

But yeah, it was good then seeing that come up.

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