You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. We are at the veil again this week. I've been to the dentist this morning to the right side of my face.

Luckily you're not on camera. You can't be honest there. Honestly, you're not on camera. You can't be noticed

honestly, you know what mate. I don't look like I've been to the fight.

It sound right, which is the main thing.

I kind of do. So if there are any words that you don't quite understand, there's a

reason for it. I mean tell you got something important with us because we got a camera and a tripod today.

That's always the way that you can tell your level of importance as a guest.

You're expecting someone else for you?

Yes, we were.

We were expecting Fox actually.

So we both got a list of questions that we'd ask on number 13.

And we're going to keep it based on that.

Ken, how I can't. I can't say I even.

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