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A quick warning before we begin.

Today's episode contains a discussion of addiction and suicidal ideations.

So please take care and listening.

Last thing, just briefly, it's 447.

So the drug that she was taking, you mentioned it.

This is one of the first conversations I had with my producer Austin.

I'm about to tell him about one of the most pivotal moments in my life with my mom.

I was 19 and she was in a really bad way.

The most down the rabbit hole of drinking, I thought it was just drinking at that point.

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