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🗓️ 31 January 2023
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Tune in to today's episode where our host Emma Dotter is in the podcast studio with Watermark member, Nathan Wagnon! Why are there so many genealogies in the OT? What's the deal with Esau and Jacob? Should we look to be more like the people in the Bible? These questions and more are answered in this episode!
Today's challenge: How does knowing no one is exempt from being grafted into the family of God change the way you live today?
Other episodes Nathan has been on for JTJ:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/join-the-journey/id1600151923?i=1000551847956
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/join-the-journey/id1600151923?i=1000568699142
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0:00.0 | Everybody, what is going on? You know what time it is. You're listening to join the Journey podcast with your host, Emma, daughter. |
0:08.8 | Thanks for joining. I am in the podcast studio with the one and only Mr. Nathan Wagner. |
0:15.9 | I hope there's only one of me. You've been here a couple times. We'll link those episodes. |
0:21.8 | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
0:22.5 | All the things. |
0:23.2 | But we are in Genesis 25 talking about Esau, and I'm going to let you just take the |
0:29.0 | mic and teach us. |
0:30.2 | Well, there is a mic right here, so I'll take it. |
0:31.7 | All right. |
0:32.5 | I think it's interesting when you come to this passage because just like any time if anybody's ever heard me teach it Watermark or on a podcast or whatever they know that you don't just start in Genesis 25 |
0:43.4 | like you don't just go look at this verse and read it and go okay Lord what are you going to teach me |
0:47.6 | today like don't do that all right please um in fact it's a um I think it's helpful even to use the right terminology. |
0:55.6 | So, like, a lot of times we'll use Book of Genesis when in reality it's like, no, this is the Genesis scroll. |
1:01.1 | Like, this was a unified body of work that came out of ancient Israel. |
1:07.3 | And it's telling a story. |
1:09.3 | It's actually telling a really important story. So you have Genesis 1 to 11, which is the Hebrew prologue. And there's all kinds of things that are being set up there, not just introducing the deity to us that God is one who creates out of love and has an interest in his creation and loves it deeply. But also it's also setting up, hey, what is, |
1:30.7 | what is sin? What is this brokenness? What is this, this dysfunction that's happening among us? |
1:38.7 | And what's really interesting is in the, in the Genesis scroll, sin or the effects of sin are often portrayed as exile so like |
1:48.5 | you're you're in or you're out you're in the garden you're out of the garden that's right and so a lot of |
1:53.5 | times we you know in western christianity there's much more of an emphasis on sin as some kind of judicious |
2:00.4 | guilt or something that needs to be judged, when in reality in the Genesis scroll, they're seeing sin more as exile, like, hey, you're outside of the camp. |
2:10.4 | Separation. Separated, yeah. And then what you see really from Genesis 12 with Abraham on is the Hebrew prologue play itself out multiple times. |
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