S1E9 / Did Anybody See This Coming? / Juliette Kayyem

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

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Science, #Coronavirus, Health & Fitness, #Smallpox, Documentary, #Covid19, #Sarscov2, #Eradication, Life Sciences, Society & Culture, #Covid, Medicine

4.6 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2020

⏱️ 25 minutes

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"It’s not an on/off switch. We are living with coronavirus until we get a vaccine, and that could be 18 months, if we’re lucky.” - Juliette Kayyem In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain discuss what we could have seen coming with this pandemic and speak with Juliette Kayyem, faculty chair of the Homeland Security Program at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and a security analyst at CNN, about the differences in approaches to the COVID-19 pandemic between public health and homeland security, the roles that both state and federal governments must play during this pandemic, and some of the failures that have happened thus far. They also talk about what we can expect to see in the coming months in the US. On March 21, 2020, Juliette Kayyem, published an article in The Atlantic, “The Crisis Could Last 18 Months. Be Prepared,” https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/there-isnt-going-be-all-clear-signal/608512/ We also hear from a healthcare worker on the frontlines at a trauma center in New Jersey about the shortages of protective gear and other essential equipment that his hospital is facing. Listener Q&A: How effective are convalescent serum and remdesivir in treating COVID-19?

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0:00.0	I'm Dr. Saline Gounder and I'm Ron Clayne.
0:08.0	And this is epidemic.
0:19.0	Today is Tuesday, April 7th. In this episode, we'll talk about what we did or didn't see coming with the coronavirus
0:24.9	epidemic and we're going to talk about the path forward from here. Our guest is
0:29.9	Juliet Chaim. She is one of the leading experts on Homeland Security. She was an assistant
0:36.3	secretary at the Department of Homeland Security under President Obama. She played a pivotal role
0:42.1	in major operations with relate to the H1N1
0:45.7	pandemic. She's also the faculty chair of the Hullman Security and Global
0:50.1	Health Project at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government.
0:53.6	In this episode, you'll also hear from a frontline health provider.
0:58.0	And as always, we'll wrap up with some listener questions.
1:01.4	But first, let's take stock of where we are in the country right now.
1:07.0	This week has been flagged by many officials as what will be one of the most grim weeks we've seen
1:12.4	in a long time in this country.
1:14.0	Here's what the Surgeon General, Dr Jerome Adams, said on Fox News this Sunday.
1:19.0	This is going to be the hardest and the saddest week of most Americans lives quite frankly this is
1:25.2	going to be our Pearl Harbor moment our 9-11 moment only it's not going to be
1:29.1	localized it's going to be happening all over the country and I want America to understand that.
1:34.0	So, Saline, do we think this is a Pearl Harbor 9-11 moment in the week ahead?
1:39.0	Well, Ron, I think Pearl Harbor and 9-11 definitely left their imprint on the American
1:45.5	psyche. There is no denying that. And sadly, this is on a completely different
1:51.1	order of magnitude than either Pearl Harbor or 9-11.
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