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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

S1E77 / Vaccination Verification: Ticket to Ride or Social Divide? / Albert Fox Cahn, Lawrence Gostin, Fatima Hassan, JP Pollak

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

KFF Health News and Just Human Productions

Society & Culture, #Eradication, Medicine, #Covid, Science, Life Sciences, #Sarscov2, Documentary, #Coronavirus, #Covid19, Health & Fitness, #Smallpox

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

"When you're building a system like a vaccine passport you're potentially excluding millions of people because they don't have this thing that once was optional, but has now become indispensable." -Albert Fox Cahn How do you let people who are fully vaccinated get back to normal life without creating super-spreader events for those who haven’t yet been vaccinated? Some are calling for vaccine certification programs that could hopefully re-open large parts of the economy safely while we still work on getting the vast majority vaccinated. In this episode, we’re going to hear about the ethics and logistics of vaccine certificates in the United States and around the world. We'll hear the arguments for and against them, and how the burden of these programs falls unevenly around the world. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

Transcript

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0:00.0

If you're trying to get on a flight and go somewhere outside of the US, you're going to

0:11.1

be asked to present digital or paper versions of your immunization record or of negative

0:16.2

test results.

0:17.6

Proof of vaccination requirement is premature and it's premature because not everybody

0:22.7

has the same opportunity and the same chance to be able to get vaccinated.

0:38.9

You're listening to Epidemic, the podcast about the science, public health, and social

0:42.8

impacts of the coronavirus pandemic.

0:44.8

I'm your host, Dr. Saline Gounder.

0:52.7

At the time of this recording, over 50% of American adults have been fully vaccinated, but

1:10.2

that means there are still a lot of people in the United States who haven't been vaccinated

1:14.0

yet.

1:15.0

This creates a difficult balancing act.

1:17.6

How do you let people who are fully vaccinated get back to normal life without creating

1:21.9

super spreader events for those who haven't yet been vaccinated?

1:26.5

This week, the European Union implemented its digital green certificate.

1:30.6

This is an electronic record of vaccination or a recent negative test result.

1:35.0

The holder of a digital green certificate gets to travel freely throughout Europe.

1:39.6

The United Kingdom has announced it would require similar proof for travelers to fly there.

1:44.8

Israel was already using a similar system called the Green Pass, but the country's health

1:48.7

officials announced they were ending the program after just three months.

1:53.2

The reason?

1:54.2

More than 80% of the country has been vaccinated, and new cases have plummeted.

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