Hello Gary how are you I'm very well looking forward to today one of the great instigators

catalysts of crossover music yeah yeah he's it's another producer for us to have on but you say that like it's a bad thing

No, I know he's a kind of producer artist I mean I remember Arthur Baker himself was virtually the only person in that new order video confusion yeah that's right as

the producer I mean he except you occasionally see Bernard and Peter both playing the wrong

instruments I thought you've been playing the wrong instrument for most of your career, haven't you?

Oh, really should have been that...

That was unnecessary.

Yucalayle player you set out to be.

No, listen, let's just sort of sum him up really and for people who maybe

aren't so familiar Africa Bumbata Planet Rock that coming together of craft work and

Electro basically invented Electro, which is a kind of branch of hip-hop. And then, actually the massive one is actually Walking on Sunshine, isn't it?

Rockers' Revenge.

Yeah, that version as opposed to the other song

yeah which is it's fun which had only been a year or two before

Katrina in the waves no Eddie Grant there are three songs called Walking on Sunshine.

There's probably hundreds of songs called Walking on Sunshine.

When Let's Dance went to number one,

I remember thinking, oh my God, I can't believe it.

It took Bowie to come up with a song called Let's Dance.

Turned out that was the eighth record called Let's Dance to Get Number One.

Wow, wow, I've now had a great idea for a song, Walk on Sunshine. It was the B-side he's not worth it.

But you know he's worked with Bruce Springsteen.

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