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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights & Coronavirus / Vanita Gupta & Michael Macagnone

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

KFF Health News and Just Human Productions

Science, #Coronavirus, Health & Fitness, #Smallpox, Documentary, #Covid19, #Sarscov2, #Eradication, Life Sciences, Society & Culture, #Covid, Medicine

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2020

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

“The nation is confronting this kind of social distancing and quarantine for the first time in the modern era, and it isn't clear to me that the laws in place are going to be sufficient. We haven't had enough protections. We don't have paid sick leave, a lot of companies are not giving time off to low wage workers in a way that makes them feel secure...And so this is a problem because not all communities are equally protected right now.” – Vanita Gupta In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain talk with Vanita Gupta, one of the nation's leading civil rights lawyers. Gupta is the President and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights and is on lists to be a future Supreme Court appointee. Previously, she was the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General and head of the Civil Right Division at the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as Deputy Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union. Gupta discusses the responsibility the media has in reinforcing anti-Chinese xenophobia, as well as the lack of sick leave and other protections that need to be in place for American workers. Finally, our hosts answer listener questions- including the role of wearing a home-made mask. They also speak with Michael Macagnone, a policy reporter with Congressional Quarterly Roll Call, who has been covering the 2020 census. They discuss the huge challenge that coronavirus poses to the census, and how it may exacerbate the undercount of minorities, young children, people in rural areas, and Native Americans on reservations. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Dr. Saline Gounder and I'm Ron Klain and this is epidemic.

0:07.0

Today is Friday.

0:17.4

Today is Friday, March 27th. In this episode, we're going to speak with Michael McGoney, who's a policy reporter with

0:22.4

Congressional Quarterly roll call.

0:25.0

And we're also going to be speaking with Anita Gupta, one of the nation's leading civil

0:28.6

rights lawyers.

0:29.6

She'll talk about your rights during the time of coronavirus and also how this crisis is impacting

0:36.1

one of the most important things we do as a country, the US Census required by our

0:40.6

Constitution every 10 years this is not only a pandemic year, but it's a

0:45.2

census year in the United States.

0:48.2

Today we're joined by Michael McInoni, a policy reporter at Congressional Quarterly Roll Call.

0:54.5

Michael, you recently published a piece titled

0:57.1

Coronavirus Crisis Complicates

0:59.4

In Person Census Outreach.

1:01.8

I'm curious, what did you learn from your reporting?

1:05.0

Well, I've been reporting on the census for almost a year now and the thing that

1:12.1

stuck out the most from the very beginning has been how much the

1:16.6

census process relies on person-to-person contact because people are distrustful of the government of opening their doors to strangers

1:26.4

of responding to official mail things like that. Outreach organizations from the

1:32.1

national level to local neighborhood groups were counting

1:35.8

on being able to talk to people face to face to convince them to respond to the census.

1:41.6

And they really can't now and they kind of have to fall back on

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