Nothing would have stopped us. Nothing did stop us, did it?

For over four decades, they've only ever moved forward.

There was nothing to go back through, there was no plan B.

Through tragedy after tragedy and a complete reinvention.

I think I brought calmness.

It was like, everyone wants to come and see the band that used to be Joy Division.

Nobody.

They've never really stopped to take a breath until now.

You were happy not being a normal group.

This is Transmissions, the definitive story of New Order and Joy Division.

How did we feel in the aftermath of the disaster that was his departure? Quite tragic departure.

Obviously you're a bit numb.

It kind of, what's the expression?

Left us a bit in the suit. We all wanted to carry on, which was the most important thing.

It was just finding out how to carry on, which was the difficult thing.

Rob Gretton was very, very intent on keeping us working, keeping us right there at the

cold face, if you like, all the time.

And that was one of the reasons why he got us gigs as soon as possible, really before

we were ready.

You know, we certainly weren't confident.

But he made us do it.

He was absolutely right.

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